[Pacemaker] Is possible to configure Pacemaker Active / Passive failover without hardware?

[Michael Furman]

Thank you for the prompt response!
 
Anycase, due to luck of time we must start without a fencing device and only network. Is it possible with Pacemaker? 
In the next release we will add fencing.
Can you send me link to doc?

BTW, may be you know if the first versions of Linux HA (before split of Pacemaker) also required a fence device?
Or was possible to use network only?

I appreciate your help!!! 
Michael

> Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2013 11:04:36 -0400
> From: lists at alteeve.ca
> To: pacemaker at oss.clusterlabs.org
> CC: michael_furman at hotmail.com
> Subject: Re: [Pacemaker] Is possible to configure Pacemaker Active / Passive failover without hardware?
> 
> It is possible in the same way that it is possible to drive on the 
> highway without your seatbelt. First time something goes wrong though, 
> you are in deep trouble. The biggest risk is a node that locks up but 
> doesn't die. Any network based "detection" will not be able to tell the 
> difference between a locked up node that may recover from a truly dead 
> node. The only way to be sure is to fence it.
> 
> So practically speaking, no, you must have fencing and the fence 
> mechanism must be external to the node to be of use. The most common 
> method is using a server's out of band management (IPMI, iLO, DRAC, 
> etc). If you don't have this, then the APC brand AP7900 (or your 
> country's version of) is an excellent switched PDU that works as a 
> fantastic fence device. I frequently see these used for ~$200 (canadian).
> 
> The 'fence_pcmk' is meant to hook cman's fencing into pacemaker's. It 
> still requires a real fence device be setup in pacemaker.
> 
> hth
> 
> digimer
> 
> On 06/07/2013 10:34 AM, Michael Furman wrote:
> > Dear Pacemaker community!
> > I want to install 2 Centos machines and to configure HA using one
> > virtual IP.
> > I do not want to use power card or something like this.
> > I want to use communication to determine the failing of nodes: broadcast
> > / mulicast UDP / TCP.
> >
> >
> > But I am confused if it possible. From one side I see here that the
> > failover is configured without any hardware:
> > http://clusterlabs.org/doc/en-US/Pacemaker/1.1-plugin/html-single/Clusters_from_Scratch/index.html#_perform_a_failover
> > On the second side I see that on quickstart and FAQ required a fencing
> > device (that is hardware):
> >
> > 1.On quickstart http://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-redhat.html you can
> > find the followowing commands: |ccs -f /etc/cluster/cluster.conf
> > --addfencedev pcmk agent=fence_pcmk|
> >
> > |2.|Similar here: http://clusterlabs.org/quickstart-ubuntu.html
> > |<fencedevice name="pcmk" agent="fence_pcmk"/>|||
> >
> > 3.http://clusterlabs.org/faq.html
> > Q: Do I need a fencing device?
> > A: Yes. Fencing is the only 100% reliable way to ensure the integrity of
> > your data and that applications are only active on one host. Although
> > Pacemaker is technically able to function without Fencing, there are a
> > good reasons SUSE and Red Hat will not support such a configuration.
> >
> > Please help!
> > Will be great if you provide the link to the appropriate documentation.
> >
> > Best regards,
> >
> > Michael
> >
> >
> >
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