[Pacemaker] Load Balancing, Node Scores and Stickiness
Andrew Beekhof
andrew at beekhof.net
Fri Oct 23 13:23:38 UTC 2009
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 10:13 AM, Colin <colin.hch at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Oct 22, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Johan Verrept <Johan.Verrept at able.be> wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-10-22 at 15:10 +0200, Florian Haas wrote:
>>> On 10/22/2009 02:37 PM, Andrew Beekhof wrote:
>>> >> I wondered, does it happen dynamically? If one resource starts using a
>>> >> lot of resources, are the other migrated to other nodes?
>>> >
>>> > Not yet.
>>> > Such a feature is planned though.
>>> >
>>> > At the moment pacemaker purely goes on the number of services it has
>>> > allocated to the node.
>>> > Total/Available RAM, CPU, HDD, none of these things are yet taken into account.
>>>
>>> Are there any plans on how this feature would look like in more detail?
>>> A daemon monitoring various performance indicators and updating node
>>> attributes accordingly? Couldn't that be done today, as a cloneable
>>> resource agent?
>>
>> I can see a few problems with such a feature if you wish to implement it
>> today.
>> First of all, you cannot really move services to less loaded nodes if
>> you cannot determine which resource causes which load. If you pick a
>> resource at random, you might move a "too heavy" resource to another
>> less loaded node and cause even more load on that node resulting in
>> something (else?) being moved back. It will create a pretty unstable
>> cluster under load.
>> I am also unsure if it would be wise to mix this directly into the
>> current node scoring. Load numbers will vary wildly and unless the
>> resulting attribute values are in some way stabilised over longer
>> periods, it will also cause unstability. (RRDTool?)
>> It might be possible, but it will be one hell of a complex RA :). A
>> daemon might be better, but both will require a LOT of configuration
>> just to differentiate the load of the different resources.
>>
>>> Or are you referring to missing features actually evaluating such
>>> information, as in, rather than saying "run this resource on a node with
>>> at load average of X or less", being able to say "run this resource on
>>> the node with the currently lowest load average"?
>>
>> How will that translate into repeatable node states? At this moment, if
>> you use a timed evaluation of the cluster state, resources should always
>> be assigned to the same nodes (at least, I've never seen it change
>> unless it was under direction of a time contraint).
>>
>> "run this resource on the node with the currently lowest load average"
>> is something that is very unlikely to ever return the same answer twice.
>>
>> Complex indeed! Someone is going to have a considerable amount of fun
>> with this :D
>
> Perhaps static load balancing could be implemented first, before
> trying to go dynamic.
>
> Suppose you could configure an arbitrary set of "measures" (I'd call
> them resources, but that word is already taken in this context), like
> an arbitrary set of keywords. For every such "measure", you can then
> configure (a) how much of it each node has, and (b) how much of it
> each cluster resource/service requires. The cluster can then use some
> heuristics to find a good distribution of resources (perfect could be
> too hard, this is squarely in NP-complete land; PostgreSQL uses a
> genetic algorithm for query optimisation...).
Thats basically what we're going for this time around.
Maybe with enough experience we'll attempt the dynamic version below.
> This is not as good as dynamic balancing, but still better than
> nothing, for example this could make sure that a resource with a
> tendency to do I/O runs on the same node with a resource that
> generally uses much CPU...
>
> Regards, Colin
>
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