<html><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "><blockquote type="cite"><div>how does this fit the release schedule?</div></blockquote><div><br></div>The short answer is that it doesn't.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); "> </span></div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.289062); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.222656); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.222656); ">The community generally does a pretty good job, heartbeat2 was a dead end that was put out of its misery years ago[1] and openais 0.80 was something like 5 years old when pacemaker started supporting it. Pacemaker 1.0 itself is almost 3 years old now iirc. </span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.285156); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.21875); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.21875);"><br></span><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">But long term support will always be hole that enterprise vendors fill with products like sles, rhel and ubuntu LTS.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.292969); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.226562); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.226562);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.285156); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.21875); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.21875);">With limited resources, projects need to choose their battles.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.28125); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.214844); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.214844);">We can't be everything to everyone, so we let the enterprise distress do what they do best while we concentrate on improving the core software.</span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.289062); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.222656); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.222656);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.285156); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.21875); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.21875);"><br></span></div><div><span class="Apple-style-span" style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); ">[1] there were also unique circumstances that necessitated killing hb2 early<br></span><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 13 Oct 2010, at 13:37, Dan Frincu <<a href="mailto:dfrincu@streamwide.ro">dfrincu@streamwide.ro</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>
Hi,<br>
<br>
Yes, it sometime needs to be killed manually because the process hangs
and the restart operation never seems to end. Yet another reason to
upgrade.<br>
<br>
All,<br>
<br>
Question: given the fact that this type of software usually gets
installed on a platform once and then usually goes into service for
many years, on servers where downtime should be kept to a minimum (gee,
that's why you use a cluster :)), how does this fit the release
schedule? <br>
<br>
I mean, there are plenty of users out there with question related to
Heartbeat 2, openais-0.8.0, and so on and so forth, some environments
cannot be changed lightly, others, not at all, so what is the response
to "this feature doesn't work on that version of software?", upgrade?
If so, at what interval (keeping in mind that you probably want the
stable packages on your system)?<br>
<br>
I'm asking this because when I started working with openais, the latest
version available was 0.8.0 on some SUSE repos that aren't available
anymore.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Dan<br>
<br>
jiaju liu wrote:
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Depending on the openais version (please mention it)
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<div class="plainMail">Hi </div>
<div class="plainMail">Thank you for your reply my openais
version is openais-0.80.5-15.1</div>
<div class="plainMail">pacemaker version is pacemaker-1.0.5-4.1.</div>
<div class="plainMail">I use restart but it does not work. I
found it could not stop</div>
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<div class="plainMail">this behavior could <br>
happen, I've seen it as well, on openais-0.8.0. What I've done to fix
it <br>
was to restart the openais process via /etc/init.d/openais restart. And
<br>
then it worked, however, this was one of the reasons I updated the <br>
packages to the latest versions of corosync, pacemaker, etc. The tricky
<br>
part was doing the migration procedure for upgrading production servers
<br>
without service downtime, but that's another story.<br>
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Dan FRINCU
Systems Engineer
CCNA, RHCE
Streamwide Romania
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